Tried asking on the debian-user list, but received not a single response.

After upgrading to wheezy yesterday, I see the following when I print
something (using lp $file), or use mutt...probably will come up for
other stuff, but I have only seen it under these circumstances:


error wrote:

WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to:
/home/tony/.cache/keyring-G7oZDk/pkcs11: No such file or directory

I can still print and use mutt and stuff, just, this error comes up every
time.

This is probably interesting:
.cache]$ ls -1
clive
dconf
event-sound-cache.tdb.7e6cf799dccc6145551f8a5500000007.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
gegl-0.2
keyring-80Os2g
menus
openbox
spotify
transmission
turpial
xine-lib
xmms2

I'm not certain if it's looking in ..-G7oZD for other stuff, because
I've seen no relevant errors to indicate as much, but it seems
possible, and even likely to me that this could occur.

There's a two year old Wheezy bug discussing this or similar matter:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653011
But I can't imagine Wheezy would be moved to Stable with an unresolved
bug from two years ago.
How do I make the gnome-keyring-daemon look in the proper place?

It may also be relevant to mention that I do not use Gnome, but rather
Openbox as a standalone wm without any DE (and have done so for years
without any such issue with the keyring daemon thingy).

ls keyring-80Os2g/
control gpg pkcs11

So there IS a keyring-$something/pcks11
just, apparently the gnome-keyring-daemon is looking in the wrong place.
It's in ~/.cache/keyring-800s2g/pcks11
not in ~/.cache/keyring-G7oZDk/pkcs11

Each time I log out and back in, the keyring-$something string changes.
I find now that the gnome-keyring-daemon is not starting, but I can start it with
gnome-keyring-daemon --start
but I still get the errors. The $something string never matches the actual directory
in ~/.cache

Also possibly related, the Debian menu has disappeared from my openbox menu.
I've done nothing to change the menu configuration from when it was there.
I find the /var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml exists, and is correct.
I'm wondering if this is another error on ~/.cache (only in ~/.cache/menus)?

#debian #keyring #daemon
@Debian @Linux Group

I'll (hopefully soon) get my old company laptop to take home. I'll probably get it bare, without OS, and I plan to install Linux on it.

Last time I set up Linux on something that was not a server was about 12 years ago or so. (Then I switched to Apple at home, which I will get rid of as soon as I need a new desktop computer, but for now my iMac serves me well. It hasn't been updated to the latest two OS X versions, and it won't ever be, because I detest Apple meanwhile, but I won't buy a new computer or try to install Linux on the iMac just for the sake of it.)

So: I don't know anything about today's Linux desktop stuff. Last time I had a Linux desktop, I used neither Gnome nor KDE but just plain X with a rather simple window manager I don't remember the name of (xfce, maybe?).

At that times, installing Linux on a laptop was a PITA. Has that changed today?

I'd like to use Debian on it because I know my way around it at least on the command line level, but I'm not sure if that would be a good choice. I'd like to use more or less current versions of the software, which might be a problem with Debian.

OTOH, well-maintained packages are of great importance to me. I simply hate it if stuff doesn't work because package dependencies are done wrong or create situations where there is no solution to installing that new package (and its dependencies) and also keep on using the software I was using all the time.

Plus, I'm not sure if support for laptop hardware is better in certain distributions than in others?

It will be a six years old Dell laptop, probably a standard business configuration with nothing special.

Any hints are greatly appreciated.

@Linux Group

Thunderbird is currently failing badly with my current instance of Dovecot. I don't really know whether blame properly lies with Thunderbird or with Dovecot, but Thunderbird is no longer seeing subfolders of INBOX. In fact, it isn't seeing any folders other than those it establishes by default. It can be told to "create" these folders, which thankfully does not wipe out their contents, but then it forgets about these folders when it exits.

What most obviously changed is that I have moved from a Linode VPS in Atlanta to a Contabo dedicated server in Munich. Both are reasonably up-to-date Arch Linux systems.

I know some folks are fans of plain text MUAs such as mutt, however I deal with a lot of HTML mail, and plain text is really inadequate for this.

This is on @Arch Linux , where icedove is not an option. (Yes, I've attempted to compile it myself; it takes a long time just to blow up.) Also, headaches arise matching versions of thunderbird/icedove and enigmail (I don't know why, but apparently it is so).

The obvious alternative is Claws mail, which supports PGP (a requirement). But in its default configuration, I find it astonishingly cumbersome. I don't like the layout and I don't even like having to do an extra click to move from one message to the next. I'm told it can be better than this, but I haven't seen any guidance on how to make it so.